@jamesh @sil oh, I admit it’s a deliberately hyperbolic statement. I guess it’s more to express my personal (and inevitable) “old man yells at cloud” frustration. At one time a web app could be built with an editor and an empty dir. now we need 4M LOC before we write a single line. It’s kinda comical when you think about it. But the progress is valid, too. We’ve come a long way. My main frustrations are maintenance overhead and that SPAs are overengineering/overkill in many scenarios.